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* '''Rosewill RSV-L4500''' | * '''Rosewill RSV-L4500''' | ||
** Fans are two wire and use molex connectors | ** Fans are two wire and use molex connectors | ||
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| + | * '''Thermaltake Core W100''' | ||
| + | ** Not all the standoffs will fit. Careful measurement and installation of only the standoffs that fit prior to installation of the motherboard is ''a necessity'' to avoid damaging the motherboard upon installation. | ||
| + | ** Add-on internal USB controller recommended. | ||
| + | ** Very spacious, with plenty of room and lots of space for many fans. Works well to provide necessary airflow and pressure within the case. | ||
| + | ** A good quality, powerful fan capable of withstanding high temperatures is required for the rear exhaust fan, which is very close to the rear CPU exhaust. A low quality fan in the rear exhaust port may hinder cooling. | ||
=== Problematic Cases === | === Problematic Cases === | ||
Revision as of 22:38, 27 August 2018
This is a collection of components known to work with the Talos™ II-based solutions. It's maintained by both Raptor CS and community members.
Contents
Cases
Good Cases
These cases were successfully used by someone.
- SuperMicro SC732i-500B
- Not recommended for 12 core and higher CPUs
- SuperMicro SC732D3-903B
- No NIC 2 LED on front panel
- Needed four pin extension cable for main chassis fan
- SuperMicro SC732D4-903B
- Add-on sound card recommended
- Add-on USB 2.0 card or USB 3.0 hub recommended
- SuperMicro SC747TQ-R1400B or SC747TG-R1400B-SQ
- Hot swap drive capable; SAS recommended
- Recommended for use with one or more high-end GPUs
- Listed as EoL by Supermicro, replaced with 1620 versions. Same fan modules and PDU used in newer, higher watt, version. (Robbieab (talk))
- System Assembly Video - SC747TG-R1400B-SQ
- Rosewill RSV-L4500
- Fans are two wire and use molex connectors
- Thermaltake Core W100
- Not all the standoffs will fit. Careful measurement and installation of only the standoffs that fit prior to installation of the motherboard is a necessity to avoid damaging the motherboard upon installation.
- Add-on internal USB controller recommended.
- Very spacious, with plenty of room and lots of space for many fans. Works well to provide necessary airflow and pressure within the case.
- A good quality, powerful fan capable of withstanding high temperatures is required for the rear exhaust fan, which is very close to the rear CPU exhaust. A low quality fan in the rear exhaust port may hinder cooling.
Problematic Cases
- BeQuiet Dark Base 900 (Robbieab (talk))
- Claims to support E-ATX on the BeQuiet website
- Infographic showing the motherboard space to only be 322mm deep, which is 8.2mm short of the full-size E-ATX.
- Emailed them for clarification, but no response. Can't confirm either way.
- SuperMicro SC822
- Low speed fans provide insufficient airflow over CPU0, leading to overheating if more than one 4-core CPU is installed.
- Athena Power RM-3U8G1043
- Some motherboard standoffs needed to be removed, and others needed additional hight.
- There was no standoff hole for the top right.
- The support beam across the top of the case interferes with CPU2 heatsink, but can be easily removed.
Standoff Issues
Stand off issues appear to be a very common problem. In many cases mitigation may be possible.
- Fractal Design Define XL R2
- Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions.
- Some alternative standoff in at least the top-middle position may be required to prevent too much bending of the motherboard while inserting RAM.
- BitFenix Aurora
- Multiple missing standoff holes, some mitigation possible.
- Thermaltake Core W200
- Heavy, expensive, massive.
- Compatible with caveats
- Talos™ II mainboard will fit in E-ATX compatible side only (when viewed from rear of case, the right side) if the dual system case.
- Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions. (non-essential but ensure proper support when inserting and removing RAM to avoid bending mainboard)
- Must remove wire-hole rubber grommets present under Talos™ II mainboard on right lower side for proper fit
- Nanoxia Deep Silence2 (Sharkcz)
- missing top-middle standoff hole, but I've used a plastic "flat" standoff instead
- Power LED - red goes to pin 15, black to pin 16
- RAIJINTEK ASTERION PLUS (Model 0R200049) (cyrozap)
- Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions.
- As a workaround the standoffs can be unscrewed and placed upside-down (screw threads facing up) under the motherboard holes.
- This actually works surprisingly well, and thanks to the other screw points the motherboard is rigid enough that I don't worry too much about the weight of the HSFs flexing it.
- That said, it's probably a good idea to always transport the system on its side and avoid bumping it if possible.
- The hinged panels that open with handles are much nicer than fiddling with thumb screws, but annoying since it makes it slightly trickier to do things that involve both the inside and back panel of the case (e.g., inserting PCI-e cards).
- The PSU is at the very bottom of the case, while all the motherboard power connectors are at the very top of the case, so this can cause some issues if your PSU's cables aren't long enough.
- The EPS12V cables on my power supply had a few inches left over, but the main motherboard power cable was just barely able to reach from the other side of the case to the power connector.
- The front of the case is sheet metal stuck to plastic using some double-sided adhesive tape, which doesn't seem to work very well.
- When I received the case the front metal was starting to peel off a few inches (several cm) at the top and bottom.
- It sticks back in place when I press on it, but I may need to get some better adhesive and re-apply it later.
- For $170, I was hoping for something a little more robust, but at least it's pretty.
- Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions.
- possible mitigation is plastic standoff like ASS-10
- Corsair 760T (mosst)
- Reasonably cheap.
- Unusually tasteful aesthetics for a consumer/gaming case. Looks like something Aperture Science would come up with.
- E-ATX boards fit, but the top-left and top-middle standoffs are missing, however this isn't much of a problem as the I/O panel helps hold the board in place.
- Cable management may be difficult, as E-ATX boards cover most of the cable holes.
Candidate Cases
These cases claim E-ATX support and are planned to be used, or were considered, by someone.
- Lian Li PC-V1000L (Robbieab (talk))
- Similar price point to the Supermicros with high power PSU.
- Very "Apple" brushed aluminium aesthetic.
- Couldn't confirm E-ATX was fullsize.
- Passed over in favour of the SuperMicro SC747TQ-R1400B
Power Supplies
When planning to run with both CPU sockets populated keep in mind that the power-supply should support also 2 8-pin EPS connectors.
- Seasonic PRIME 1300W
- Seasonic PRIME Ultra 850W Gold
- Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W
- Seasonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 1000W (SSR-1000TR)
- FSP Group Twins ATX 1+1 Dual Module 700W 80 PLUS GOLD Hot Swappable Redundant Digital Power Supply (ebrasca)
- Customer reported good build quality and proper functionality
- Corsair TX550M 80+ GOLD (MarcusC)
- 2nd EPS power cable sold separately
- Corsair AX860
- EVGA SuperNova 1200P2 1200W Platinum(mosst)
- Works well, but the included ATX power cables may be too short if your PSU is mounted on the bottom of the case.
Memory
The criteria are basically "is it ECC, is it registered, is it NOT LRDIMM"
From the manual:
| Total Slots | 16 (4 channels per CPU) |
| Capacity | 2TB maximum |
| Memory Type | DDR4 1600/1866/2133/2400/2666 |
| Memory Features | ECC |
| Module Sizes | 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB (RDIMM) |
Tested Memory
Good Memory
| Module | Validation | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Manufacturer | Model | Size | Speed | Type | ECC | Stepping | Firmware | Source | Notes |
| Pacific Sun | X10723042S | 8GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.1 | Hostboot cc2d45a | Official | |
| Hynix | HMA82GR7AFR8N-UH | 16GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot e36ec63 | Official | |
| Samsung | M393A1G40DB0-CPB | 8GB | PC4-17000 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 30dfd3b | meklort | Requires System Package v1.02 |
| Kingston | KTH-PL424/16G | 16GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.1 | Hostboot cc2d45a | Official | |
| Micron | MTA18ASF2G72PZ-2G3B1 | 16GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 28927a7 | Official | |
| Micron | MTA18ASF2G72PDZ-2G3D1 | 16GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.1 | Hostboot cc2d45a | Official | |
| Micron | MTA18ASF2G72PDZ-2G6D1 | 16GB | PC4-21333 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 884b60b | smaeul | |
| Micron | MTA36ASF4G72PZ-2G6D1 | 32GB | PC4-21333 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 6ffaeb4 | cyrozap | |
| Samsung | M393A4K40BB1-CRC | 32GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.1 | Hostboot 1e2221d | Official | |
| Samsung | M393A8K40B22-CWD | 64GB | PC4-21300 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 884b60b | Official | |
| Samsung | M393A2K40BB2-CTD | 16GB | PC4-21300 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 0c8fa110 | meklort | Will run at 2400MT/s with System Package v1.00 |
| Samsung | M393A4K40BB2-CTD8Q | 32GB | PC4-21333 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 28927a7 | luke-jr | |
| Samsung | M393A2G40EB2-CTD | 16GB | PC4-21300V-R | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Hostboot 30dfd3b | JSharp | Tested extensively with System Package v1.02 but does boot on v1.00, Dual 8-Core POWER9, x8 DIMM Modules (RCS Recommended Slot Configuration) |
| Samsung | M393A4K40CB2-CTD6Q | 32GB | PC4-21300 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | hostboot-884b60b | kev009 | 8 DIMMs working well |
| Kingston | KVR24R17S8K4/32 | 8GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | 1.04, PNOR d286337d | sharkcz | kit 4x 8GB, got 1 stick faulty, but 3x 8GB worked OK |
| Kingston | KVR24R17D8/16MA | 16GB | PC4-19200 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | 1.04, PNOR d286337d | sharkcz | |
| Crucial | CT4G4RFS8266 | 4GB | PC4-21300 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | Robbieab | Purchased as the CT2K4G4RFS8266 8GB kit. Confirmed functional from the petitboot shell. | |
| Crucial | CT8G4RFS8266 | 8GB | PC4-21300 | Registered | Yes | CT2K8G4RFS8266 16GB kit (8GBx2). DDR4 PC4-21300 • CL=19 • Single Ranked • x8 based • Registered • ECC • DDR4-2666 • 1.2V • 1024Meg x 72. Confirmed with a working Debian GNU and Devuan GNU+Linux installation. | |||
| Ventura (Samsung) | D4-62JA402SV-15 | 16GB | PC4-17000 | Registered | Yes | POWER9 DD2.2 | mosst | ||
Incompatible Memory
NOTE: Memory may be removed from this table after firmware support has been added, or there may be a fundamental hardware incompatibility. If you have incompatible memory listed in the table below, you may want to bookmark and check this page from time to time to see if a firmware update has resolved the issue.
| Module | Test Conditions | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Manufacturer | Model | Size | Speed | Type | ECC | Stepping | Firmware | Last Test | |
| Samsung | M386A8K40BMB-CRC | 64GB | PC4-19200 | Registered LRDIMM | Yes | POWER9 DD2.1 | Hostboot 1e2221d | 02/14/2018 | |
SAS/SATA Storage Drives
Connected via optional on-board PM8068 controller, or via PCIe controller. NVMe cards are also supported.
Boards with onboard SAS have one Mini-SAS HD 4i (SFF-8643) port, and four standard SATA-III ports. Both support both SAS and SATA at the electrical level.
Note: Microsemi Adaptec Series 8 RAID controllers do not support ATAPI CD-ROM, DVD, or tape devices.
PCIe Devices
Storage Controllers
- IOCrest SI-PEX40062 (Chipset: Marvell 88SE9235)
- LSI 9300 SAS HBAs
- PM8068-based SAS HBAs
- Supermicro AOC-SLG3-4E2P 4-port OCuLink adapter
NICs
- Broadcom BCM5719
- Chelsio T6225-SO-CR
NVMe M.2 Adapters
- Ableconn PEXM2-SSD M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD to PCI Express 3.0 x4 Host Adapter Card (M.2 to PCIe adapter)
- Delock PCI Express x4 Card > 1 x internal NVMe M.2 Key M 80 mm - Low Profile Form Factor
- JEYI SK4 M.2 NVMe(M Key) SSD to PCI-E 3.0 x4 Adapter Converter Card
- SYBA SI-PEX40110 M.2 PCI-e To PCI-e 3.0 x4
NVMe Storage Drives
- Samsung 950 PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
- Samsung 960 EVO / PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
- Samsung 970 PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
- Intel Optane 900P NVMe XPoint PCIe
- Intel Optane 905P NVMe XPoint PCIe AIC
- WD Black PCIe (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
- MyDigitalSSD BPX 480GB (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
Graphics Cards
No display? Check out the GPU Troubleshooting page.
AMD
All AMD GPUs currently have DMA issues (limited to 32-bit, which can cause crashes) with the current Talos II firmware. This is expected to be fixed in future firmware updates.
- AMD Radeon HD 5850 - Must disable onboard VGA first. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
- AMD Radeon HD 7850 - Disabled onboard VGA. Using amdgpu is highly unstable, radeon driver is usable but has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
- AMD Radeon HD 7950 - Must disable onboard VGA first. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
- AMD Radeon R5 220
- AMD Radeon R5 230 - Works in BE mode (use
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"for Xorg) - AMD Radeon R7 240
- Radeon R9 290X
- AMD Radeon Pro WX7100 (Polaris10 core) - Available pre-installed on Talos II workstation, server, and desktop configurations.
- AMD Radeon Pro WX5100
- AMD Radeon Pro WX4100 (Polaris11 core) - May need at least linux 4.16 in order to get Xorg to work.
- AMD RX Vega 56 - Works with Debian Buster with amdgpu. Requires patches to work, somewhat unstable but usable. Cannot use AST Integrated VGA and AMDGPU at the same time without causing conflict. Not tested at this moment for use in petitboot or firmware.
The core name is important when storing the firmware into the BOOTKERNFW partition in PNOR for use by skiroot.
NVIDIA
- NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1) - Works in petitboot if onboard VGA is disabled. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA. No firmware needed.
Sound Cards
- Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX SB1570 PCIe 5.1 Sound Card
- Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity PCIe Audio Sound Card (SB0880)
- AMD Radeon HD 5850 and 7950 (HDMI audio)
- VANTEC NBA-120U (USB)
- Mackie Onyx Blackjack (USB) Recording Interface
- RME HDSPe AIO (FreeBSD tested)
USB controllers
Working
- Insignia USB 3.0 PCI-e NS-PCCUP53 V1.0 (NEC D720202 chipset)
- Terminus Technology Inc. FE 2.1 7-port Hub
non-working
- AXAGON PCEU-43V - chipset Via VL805 - PCI id 1106/3483
CAPI Devices
- Mellanox ConnectX-6 EN 200Gb/s Adapter Card
Serial Adapters for J7701 Header
DTK/INTEL (compatible)
- CablesToGo 09480 (unverified)
- Assmann Serial Slot Bracket AK-610300-003-E, sold under PremiumCord brand (used by Sharkcz)
- E-ITX ACC3100[1] (tested by Bdragon)
AT/EVEREX (not compatible)
- StarTech PLATE9M16
- Gigabyte COM port
