Talos II/Hardware Compatibility List

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This is a collection of components known to work with the Talos™ II-based solutions. It's maintained by both Raptor CS and community members.

Cases

Good Cases

These cases were successfully used by someone.

  • SuperMicro SC732i-500B
    • Not recommended for 12 core and higher CPUs
  • SuperMicro SC732D4-903B
    • Add-on sound card recommended
    • Add-on USB 2.0 card or USB 3.0 hub recommended
  • SuperMicro SC747TQ-R1400B or SC747TG-R1400B-SQ
    • Hot swap drive capable; SAS recommended
    • Recommended for use with one or more high-end GPUs
    • Listed as EoL by Supermicro, replaced with 1620 versions. Same fan modules and PDU used in newer, higher watt, version. (Robbieab (talk))
    • System Assembly Video - SC747TG-R1400B-SQ
  • Rosewill RSV-L4500
    • Fans are two wire and use molex connectors
  • TCG TGC-H4-650
    • Physical dimensions and mounting hardware fit perfectly
    • Extremely Inexpensive Bare-bones 4U Chassis

Problematic Cases

  • BeQuiet Dark Base 900 (Robbieab (talk))
    • Claims to support E-ATX on the BeQuiet website
    • Infographic showing the motherboard space to only be 322mm deep, which is 8.2mm short of the full-size E-ATX.
    • Emailed them for clarification, but no response. Can't confirm either way.
  • SuperMicro SC822
    • Low speed fans provide insufficient airflow over CPU0, leading to overheating if more than one 4-core CPU is installed.
  • Athena Power RM-3U8G1043
    • Some motherboard standoffs needed to be removed, and others needed additional hight.
    • There was no standoff hole for the top right.
    • The support beam across the top of the case interferes with CPU2 heatsink, but can be easily removed.

Standoff Issues

Stand off issues appear to be a very common problem. In many cases mitigation may be possible.

  • Fractal Design Define XL R2
    • Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions.
    • Some alternative standoff in at least the top-middle position may be required to prevent too much bending of the motherboard while inserting RAM.
  • Thermaltake Core W100 (See the Morgan's Revenge, by JollyRoger)
    • The positions of some standoffs are under components mounted on the back of the board. Careful measurement and attachment of only the standoffs that fit prior to installation of the motherboard is a necessity to avoid damaging the motherboard upon installation.
    • An add-on internal USB header is necessary to activate the extra 2 USB3 ports on the front panel.
    • The case is very spacious, with plenty of room and lots of space for many fans. Works well to provide necessary airflow and pressure within the case.
    • It is extremely important to have a good quality, powerful fan capable of withstanding high temperatures is required for the rear exhaust fan, which is very close to the rear CPU exhaust. A low quality fan in the rear exhaust port may hinder cooling.
  • Thermaltake Core W200
    • Heavy, expensive, massive.
    • Compatible with caveats
      • Talos™ II mainboard will fit in E-ATX compatible side only (when viewed from rear of case, the right side) if the dual system case.
      • Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions. (non-essential but ensure proper support when inserting and removing RAM to avoid bending mainboard)
      • Must remove wire-hole rubber grommets present under Talos™ II mainboard on right lower side for proper fit
  • Nanoxia Deep Silence2 (Sharkcz)
    • missing top-middle standoff hole, but I've used a plastic "flat" standoff instead
    • Power LED - red goes to pin 15, black to pin 16
  • RAIJINTEK ASTERION PLUS (Model 0R200049) (cyrozap)
    • Missing standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions.
      • As a workaround the standoffs can be unscrewed and placed upside-down (screw threads facing up) under the motherboard holes.
      • This actually works surprisingly well, and thanks to the other screw points the motherboard is rigid enough that I don't worry too much about the weight of the HSFs flexing it.
      • That said, it's probably a good idea to always transport the system on its side and avoid bumping it if possible.
    • The hinged panels that open with handles are much nicer than fiddling with thumb screws, but annoying since it makes it slightly trickier to do things that involve both the inside and back panel of the case (e.g., inserting PCI-e cards).
    • The PSU is at the very bottom of the case, while all the motherboard power connectors are at the very top of the case, so this can cause some issues if your PSU's cables aren't long enough.
      • The EPS12V cables on my power supply had a few inches left over, but the main motherboard power cable was just barely able to reach from the other side of the case to the power connector.
    • The front of the case is sheet metal stuck to plastic using some double-sided adhesive tape, which doesn't seem to work very well.
      • When I received the case the front metal was starting to peel off a few inches (several cm) at the top and bottom.
      • It sticks back in place when I press on it, but I may need to get some better adhesive and re-apply it later.
    • For $170, I was hoping for something a little more robust, but at least it's pretty.
  • possible mitigation is plastic standoff like ASS-10
  • Corsair 760T (mosst)
    • Reasonably cheap.
    • Unusually tasteful aesthetics for a consumer/gaming case. Looks like something Aperture Science would come up with.
    • E-ATX boards fit, but the top-left and top-middle standoffs are missing, however this isn't much of a problem as the I/O panel helps hold the board in place.
    • Cable management may be difficult, as E-ATX boards cover most of the cable holes.
  • Lian Li PC-V1000L (Maxmillian (talk))
    • Very "Apple" brushed aluminum aesthetic.
    • E-ATX boards fit, but standoff holes for the top-left and top-middle positions are missing. There's a hole where the top-right standoff is supposed to be, but it's too big to screw in an ordinary standoff.

Candidate Cases

These cases claim E-ATX support and are planned to be used, or were considered, by someone.

Power Supplies

When planning to run with both CPU sockets populated keep in mind that the power-supply should support also 2 8-pin EPS connectors.

  • Seasonic PRIME 1300W
  • Seasonic PRIME Ultra 850W Gold
  • Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W
  • Seasonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 1000W (SSR-1000TR)
  • FSP Group Twins ATX 1+1 Dual Module 700W 80 PLUS GOLD Hot Swappable Redundant Digital Power Supply (ebrasca)
    • Customer reported good build quality and proper functionality
  • Corsair TX550M 80+ GOLD (MarcusC)
    • 2nd EPS power cable sold separately
  • Corsair AX860
  • EVGA SuperNova 1200P2 1200W Platinum(mosst)
    • Works well, but the included ATX power cables may be too short if your PSU is mounted on the bottom of the case.
  • SilverStone Strider gold S series 850W ATX. 80 plus gold certification. (Xilinder)

Memory

The criteria are basically "is it ECC, is it registered, is it NOT LRDIMM"

From the manual:

Total Slots 16 (4 channels per CPU)
Capacity 2TB maximum
Memory Type DDR4 1600/1866/2133/2400/2666
Memory Features ECC
Module Sizes 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB, 128GB (RDIMM)

Tested Memory

Good Memory

Module Validation
Manufacturer Model Size Speed Type ECC Stepping Firmware Source Notes
Pacific Sun X10723042S 8GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.1 Hostboot cc2d45a Official
Hynix HMA82GR7AFR8N-UH 16GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot e36ec63 Official
Samsung M393A1G40DB0-CPB 8GB PC4-17000 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 30dfd3b meklort Requires System Package v1.02
Kingston KTH-PL424/16G 16GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.1 Hostboot cc2d45a Official
Micron MTA18ASF2G72PZ-2G3B1 16GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 28927a7 Official
Micron MTA18ASF2G72PDZ-2G3D1 16GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.1 Hostboot cc2d45a Official
Micron MTA18ASF2G72PDZ-2G6D1 16GB PC4-21333 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 884b60b smaeul
Micron MTA36ASF4G72PZ-2G6D1 32GB PC4-21333 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 6ffaeb4 cyrozap
Samsung M393A4K40BB1-CRC 32GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.1 Hostboot 1e2221d Official
Samsung M393A8K40B22-CWD 64GB PC4-21300 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 884b60b Official
Samsung M393A2K40BB2-CTD 16GB PC4-21300 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 0c8fa110 meklort Will run at 2400MT/s with System Package v1.00
Samsung M393A4K40BB2-CTD8Q 32GB PC4-21333 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 28927a7 luke-jr
Samsung M393A2G40EB2-CTD 16GB PC4-21300V-R Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Hostboot 30dfd3b JSharp Tested extensively with System Package v1.02 but does boot on v1.00, Dual 8-Core POWER9, x8 DIMM Modules (RCS Recommended Slot Configuration) 128GiB total; also tested x4 DIMM Modules (RCS Recommended Slot Configuration) 64GiB total
Samsung M393A4K40CB2-CTD6Q 32GB PC4-21300 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 hostboot-884b60b kev009 8 DIMMs working well
Kingston KVR24R17S8K4/32 8GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 1.04, PNOR d286337d sharkcz kit 4x 8GB, got 1 stick faulty, but 3x 8GB worked OK
Kingston KVR24R17D8/16MA 16GB PC4-19200 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 1.04, PNOR d286337d sharkcz
Crucial CT4G4RFS8266 4GB PC4-21300 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 Robbieab Purchased as the CT2K4G4RFS8266 8GB kit. Confirmed functional from the petitboot shell.
Crucial CT8G4RFS8266 8GB PC4-21300 Registered Yes CT2K8G4RFS8266 16GB kit (8GBx2). DDR4 PC4-21300 • CL=19 • Single Ranked • x8 based • Registered • ECC • DDR4-2666 • 1.2V • 1024Meg x 72. Confirmed with a working Debian GNU and Devuan GNU+Linux installation.
Ventura (Samsung) D4-62JA402SV-15 16GB PC4-17000 Registered Yes POWER9 DD2.2 mosst

Incompatible Memory

NOTE: Memory may be removed from this table after firmware support has been added, or there may be a fundamental hardware incompatibility. If you have incompatible memory listed in the table below, you may want to bookmark and check this page from time to time to see if a firmware update has resolved the issue.

Module Test Conditions
Manufacturer Model Size Speed Type ECC Stepping Firmware Last Test
Samsung M386A8K40BMB-CRC 64GB PC4-19200 Registered LRDIMM Yes POWER9 DD2.1 Hostboot 1e2221d 02/14/2018

SAS/SATA Storage Drives

Connected via optional on-board PM8068 controller, or via PCIe controller. NVMe cards are also supported.

Boards with onboard SAS have one Mini-SAS HD 4i (SFF-8643) port, and four standard SATA-III ports. Both support both SAS and SATA at the electrical level.

Note: Microsemi Adaptec Series 8 RAID controllers do not support ATAPI CD-ROM, DVD, or tape devices.

PCIe Devices

Storage Controllers

  • IOCrest SI-PEX40062 (Chipset: Marvell 88SE9235, PCI id 1B4B:9235)
  • Kouwell PE-115H (Chipset: Marvell 88SE9130, PCI id 1b4b:9130)
  • LSI 9300/9200 SAS HBAs
    • May require updating to IT firmware on a x86 machine
  • PM8068-based SAS HBAs
  • Supermicro AOC-SLG3-4E2P 4-port OCuLink adapter
  • Jmicron JMB 363 SATA PCIe card. SATA ports work with Petitboot.

non working

  • AXAGON PCES-SA2 (ASMedia chipset)

NICs

  • Broadcom BCM5719
  • Chelsio T6225-SO-CR

NVMe M.2 Adapters

Non-Working

NVMe Storage Drives

  • Samsung 950 PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
  • Samsung 960 EVO / PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
  • Samsung 970 PRO (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
  • Intel Optane 900P NVMe XPoint PCIe
  • Intel Optane 905P NVMe XPoint PCIe AIC
  • WD Black PCIe (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)
  • MyDigitalSSD BPX 480GB (with M.2 to PCIe adapter)

Graphics Cards

No display? Check out the GPU Troubleshooting page.

AMD

All AMD GPUs currently have DMA issues (limited to 32-bit, which can cause crashes) with the current Talos II firmware. This is expected to be fixed in future firmware updates.

  • AMD Radeon HD 5850 - Must disable onboard VGA first. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
  • AMD Radeon HD 6850 - Disable AST VGA with jumper. 32 bit.
  • AMD Radeon HD 7850 - Disabled onboard VGA. Using amdgpu is highly unstable, radeon driver is usable but has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
  • AMD Radeon HD 7950 - Must disable onboard VGA first. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA.
  • AMD Radeon R5 220
  • AMD Radeon R5 230 - Works in BE mode (use Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" for Xorg)
  • AMD Radeon R7 240
  • Radeon R9 290X
  • AMD Radeon Pro WX7100 (Polaris10 core) - Available pre-installed on Talos II workstation, server, and desktop configurations.
  • AMD Radeon Pro WX5100
  • AMD Radeon Pro WX4100 (Polaris11 core) - May need at least linux 4.16 in order to get Xorg to work.
  • AMD RX Vega 56 - Works with Debian Buster with amdgpu. Requires patches to work, somewhat unstable but usable. Cannot use AST Integrated VGA and AMDGPU at the same time without causing conflict. Not tested at this moment for use in petitboot or firmware.

The core name is important when storing the firmware into the BOOTKERNFW partition in PNOR for use by skiroot.

NVIDIA

  • NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1) - Works in petitboot if onboard VGA is disabled. Currently has issues with only using 32-bit DMA. No firmware needed.

Sound Cards

USB controllers

non-working

  • AXAGON PCEU-43V - chipset Via VL805 - PCI id 1106:3483
  • StarTech PEXUSB314A2V - 2x ASM1142 host controllers and a PCIe switch
  • QNINE USB 3.1 Gen2 (Type-A and Type-C) - ASM1142
    • It's based on the the same reference design as all the other cheap ASM1142 cards, so there's a good chance those won't work either.
  • Ableconn PU31-2C-2 - ASM2142

TV Tuners

  • Hauppauge WinTV-quadHD

CAPI Devices

  • Mellanox ConnectX-6 EN 200Gb/s Adapter Card

Serial Adapters for J7701 Header

DTK/INTEL (compatible)

AT/EVEREX (not compatible)

  • StarTech PLATE9M16
  • Gigabyte COM port
  • CablesToGo 27550 (labelled Intel-compatible, but does not work) [2]

Serial Adapters for BMC TTL Auxiliary Serial Header

  • Adafruit USB to TTL Serial Cable - Debug / Console Cable for Raspberry Pi [3]

Unfortunately the auxiliary serial port is disabled in software by default. To enable it temporarily for a given boot, interrupt U-Boot through the serial port in the prior section, and then enter the following commands at the ast# prompt: 

setenv fit 0x20080000
setenv other_rfs 0x20300000
setenv uart2_fdt 0x90000000
fdt addr ${fit}
fdt get addr fit_fdt /images/fdt@1 data
fdt move ${fit_fdt} ${uart2_fdt}
fdt addr ${uart2_fdt}
fdt resize
setenv pin_path "/ahb/apb/syscon@1e6e2000/pinctrl@1e6e2000/"
setenv phandle 80
for pin in txd2 rxd2 nrts2 ndtr2 ndsr2 ncts2 ndcd2 nri2
do
    fdt set ${pin_path}${pin}_default linux,phandle <${phandle}>
    fdt set ${pin_path}${pin}_default phandle <${phandle}>
    setexpr phandle ${phandle} + 1
done
setenv uart2_path "/ahb/apb/serial@1e78d000"
fdt set ${uart2_path} status "okay"
fdt set ${uart2_path} pinctrl-names "default"
fdt set ${uart2_path} pinctrl-0 <0x00000050 0x00000051 0x00000052 0x00000053 0x00000054 0x00000055 0x00000056 0x00000057>
fdt addr ${fit}
if fdt get value ramdisk_conf /configurations/conf@1 ramdisk
then
    bootm ${fit}#conf@1 ${fit}#conf@1 ${uart2_fdt}
else
    bootm ${fit}#conf@1 ${other_rfs} ${uart2_fdt}
fi

After the system has booted, you can enable logins over the auxiliary serial port with: 

systemctl start serial-getty@ttyS1.service
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